This child page puts the parent derivation to work. We won't re-derive the formulas — we will use them on every kind of situation the topic can throw at you. Before touching numbers, let's map the whole battlefield so no scenario surprises you.
Recall The three formulas we will reuse (from the parent)
Design (frictionless): tan θ = r g v 2 , so v 0 = r g tan θ .
Maximum with friction: v ma x = r g 1 − μ tan θ μ + tan θ .
Minimum with friction: v min = r g 1 + μ tan θ tan θ − μ .
Here g = 9.8 m/s 2 throughout unless a problem says otherwise.
Every banking problem lives in one of these cells. Each cell asks a different physical question , so each needs its own worked example.
Cell
What is special about it
Physical question
A. Pure design
μ = 0 , ask for the one perfect speed
What is v 0 ?
B. Max with friction
μ > 0 , going too fast
How fast before flying out?
C. Min with friction
μ > 0 , going too slow
How slow before slipping in?
D. Degenerate: flat road
θ = 0
Does the formula collapse to the friction limit?
E. Degenerate: tan θ ≤ μ
very steep OR very rough
Can the car stand still (v min = 0 )?
F. Limiting: μ tan θ → 1
denominator → 0
Why does v ma x → ∞ ?
G. Inverse problem
given v , find θ
Design a road for a target speed
H. Real-world word problem
km/h, real curve
Is the posted limit safe?
I. Exam twist
friction direction ambiguous
Which way does f point, and why?
We now hit all nine cells with 9 examples.
Worked example A: the one perfect speed
A curve of radius r = 80 m is banked at θ = 2 5 ∘ . There is ice — treat as frictionless. What single speed lets a car turn safely?
Forecast: Steeper or wider curve → faster design speed. 2 5 ∘ is moderate, 80 m is fairly wide. Guess: somewhere near 20 m/s ?
Use v 0 = r g tan θ . Why this step? With μ = 0 there is exactly one safe speed — the design speed — because friction can no longer absorb any mismatch.
tan 2 5 ∘ = 0.4663 . Why? tan = (inward horizontal part of N ) ÷ (upward vertical part of N ); it is the ratio that ties tilt to the force balance.
v 0 = 80 × 9.8 × 0.4663 = 365.6 = 19.12 m/s .
Verify: Units: m ⋅ ( m/s 2 ) = m 2 / s 2 = m/s ✓. Value ≈ 19.1 m/s ≈ 69 km/h — matches the forecast band. ✓
Worked example B: how fast before flying out
Same curve r = 80 m , θ = 2 5 ∘ , but now dry road μ = 0.35 . What is the maximum safe speed?
Forecast: Friction now helps hold the car in, so v ma x must be larger than the design 19.1 m/s .
Use v ma x = r g 1 − μ tan θ μ + tan θ . Why this step? Above design speed the car tends to slide up/out , so friction points down the slope and adds its inward component — the "+ μ on top" formula.
Top: μ + tan θ = 0.35 + 0.4663 = 0.8163 .
Bottom: 1 − μ tan θ = 1 − 0.35 × 0.4663 = 1 − 0.1632 = 0.8368 . Why? The down-slope friction also has a small downward vertical part, which reduces N — that shrinks the denominator.
Ratio = 0.8163/0.8368 = 0.9755 .
v ma x = 80 × 9.8 × 0.9755 = 764.8 = 27.66 m/s .
Verify: 27.7 > 19.1 ✓ (friction raised the ceiling). Units clean. ✓
Worked example C: how slow before slipping in
Same curve, same μ = 0.35 . What is the slowest speed at which the car does NOT slide inward?
Forecast: Below design speed the car tends to slip down/inward , so friction now fights that, pointing up the slope . v min should be less than 19.1 m/s .
Use v min = r g 1 + μ tan θ tan θ − μ . Why this step? Friction reversed direction (up-slope) → flip the sign of μ in the max formula.
Top: tan θ − μ = 0.4663 − 0.35 = 0.1163 . Why check the sign? If this went negative, v min would be imaginary → meaning 0 (see Cell E).
Bottom: 1 + μ tan θ = 1.1632 .
Ratio = 0.1163/1.1632 = 0.09998 .
v min = 80 × 9.8 × 0.09998 = 78.4 = 8.85 m/s .
Verify: 8.85 < 19.1 < 27.7 — the safe band [ v min , v ma x ] correctly straddles the design speed. ✓
Worked example D: the formula must survive
θ = 0
A flat (un-banked) curve, r = 80 m , μ = 0.35 . Fastest safe speed?
Forecast: No tilt means only friction turns the car. Should reduce to the flat-road limit μ r g .
Put θ = 0 into v ma x : tan 0 = 0 , so v ma x = r g 1 − 0 μ + 0 = μ r g . Why this step? It's the consistency test — a good formula must collapse gracefully at a boundary.
v ma x = 0.35 × 80 × 9.8 = 274.4 = 16.57 m/s .
Verify: This is lower than the banked Cell B answer (27.7 ) — banking helps, flat doesn't. Physically sensible. ✓
Worked example E: steep + rough →
v min = 0
A steep bobsled-style curve, r = 30 m , θ = 4 0 ∘ , rough surface μ = 0.9 . Find v min .
Forecast: Very rough and very steep. Maybe friction alone can hold the car in place, so v min could be 0 .
Check the top of v min : tan 4 0 ∘ − μ = 0.8391 − 0.9 = − 0.0609 . Why check first? A negative numerator means the square root is imaginary — physically impossible for a real speed.
Since tan θ ≤ μ , the car has no tendency to slide inward even at rest — friction can supply enough up-slope hold. So we set v min = 0 . Why? The formula's "negative inside root" is nature's way of saying "this case can't happen; the true minimum is standstill."
Verify: tan 4 0 ∘ = 0.8391 ≤ 0.9 = μ ✓ confirms the standstill condition. So v min = 0 m/s . ✓
v ma x blows up
A curve with r = 30 m , θ = 4 5 ∘ (tan θ = 1 ), μ = 1.0 . What does v ma x do?
Forecast: Denominator 1 − μ tan θ = 1 − 1 = 0 . Dividing by zero → v ma x → ∞ . Something dramatic.
Denominator = 1 − μ tan θ = 1 − 1 × 1 = 0 . Why this matters: the down-slope friction's grip grows so fast with N that no finite speed can overpower it — the car theoretically never flies out.
As μ tan θ → 1 − , 1 − μ tan θ μ + tan θ → + ∞ , so v ma x → ∞ . Why physically? Higher speed needs more N , but more N means more friction, which points inward here — a self-reinforcing loop with no upper break.
Verify: With μ = 0.999 , tan θ = 1 : ratio = 0.001 1.999 = 1999 , giving v ma x = 30 × 9.8 × 1999 ≈ 766 m/s — enormous, confirming the blow-up trend. ✓
Worked example G: choose the banking angle for a target speed
Engineers want cars to comfortably take a curve of r = 120 m at v = 25 m/s using no friction (design speed). What banking angle θ ?
Forecast: Faster target + tighter turn → steeper bank. 25 m/s is fast on a 120 m curve, so expect a moderate-to-steep angle.
Rearrange the design formula: tan θ = r g v 2 , so θ = arctan r g v 2 . Why arctan ? arctan is the inverse question — "which angle has this tan?" — it undoes tan to recover the tilt.
r g v 2 = 120 × 9.8 2 5 2 = 1176 625 = 0.5315 .
θ = arctan ( 0.5315 ) = 27.9 9 ∘ ≈ 28. 0 ∘ .
Verify: Plug back: v 0 = r g tan 2 8 ∘ = 120 × 9.8 × 0.5317 = 625.3 = 25.01 m/s ✓ recovers the target.
Worked example H: is the posted speed limit safe?
A highway ramp curve has r = 150 m , banked θ = 1 2 ∘ , wet asphalt μ = 0.25 . The posted limit is 90 km/h . Is it safe?
Forecast: 1 2 ∘ is gentle; 90 km/h is fast. It might exceed v ma x — worth checking.
Convert: 90 km/h = 90 × 3600 1000 = 25 m/s . Why convert? Every formula is in SI; mixing km/h silently breaks the numbers.
tan 1 2 ∘ = 0.2126 .
v ma x = r g 1 − μ tan θ μ + tan θ = 150 × 9.8 1 − 0.25 × 0.2126 0.25 + 0.2126 .
Ratio = 1 − 0.05315 0.4626 = 0.94685 0.4626 = 0.4886 .
v ma x = 1470 × 0.4886 = 718.3 = 26.80 m/s .
Verify: 25 m/s < 26.8 m/s , so the posted limit is just barely safe — margin only 1.8 m/s . On wetter roads (μ drops) it would be unsafe. ✓
This is the classic trap. The direction of friction is not fixed — it depends on whether the given speed is above or below the design speed. Look at the figure.
Worked example I: decide friction's direction, then solve
A curve has r = 100 m , θ = 2 0 ∘ , μ = 0.30 . A car moves at v = 30 m/s . Which way does friction point, and is the car safe?
Forecast: First find the design speed. If 30 m/s is above it, the car tends outward → friction down-slope ; use the max comparison.
Design speed: v 0 = r g tan 2 0 ∘ = 100 × 9.8 × 0.36397 = 356.7 = 18.89 m/s . Why first? It's the pivot: below it friction points up, above it friction points down.
Since 30 > 18.89 , the car tends to slide up/outward , so friction acts down the slope (red arrow in the figure). Why? Friction opposes the tendency of relative sliding , not gravity.
Check the ceiling: v ma x = r g 1 − μ tan θ μ + tan θ = 980 1 − 0.30 × 0.36397 0.30 + 0.36397 .
Ratio = 0.89081 0.66397 = 0.74535 ; v ma x = 980 × 0.74535 = 730.4 = 27.03 m/s .
Verify: 30 m/s > 27.03 m/s = v ma x → the car exceeds the maximum and would skid outward. Unsafe. Direction call (down-slope) confirmed because v > v 0 . ✓
Common mistake Assuming friction is down-slope because you saw "
+ μ " once
Fix: Always compare the given v against the design speed v 0 = r g tan θ first. v > v 0 ⇒ friction down-slope (max branch). v < v 0 ⇒ friction up-slope (min branch). v = v 0 ⇒ no friction needed at all.
Friction points which way when v > v 0 ? Down the slope (car tends to slide outward/up).
Friction points which way when v < v 0 ? Up the slope (car tends to slip inward/down).
When is v min = 0 ? When tan θ ≤ μ — friction alone can hold the car even at rest.
Why does v ma x → ∞ as μ tan θ → 1 ? The denominator 1 − μ tan θ → 0 ; friction's inward grip grows with N faster than any speed can overpower.
How do you find the banking angle for a target design speed? θ = arctan r g v 2 .
Centripetal force — every example balances forces to supply m v 2 / r .
Friction — sets the v min –v ma x range in cells B, C, E, F, I.
Uniform Circular Motion — origin of the v 2 / r requirement.
Inclined plane — same resolve-into-axes method used here.
Conical pendulum — shares the design formula tan θ = v 2 / r g .
Newton's Second Law — applied per axis in each solution.
Back to the parent derivation .