Exercises — Simultaneity — relativity of simultaneity
2.3.27 · D4· Physics › Modern Physics › Simultaneity — relativity of simultaneity

Neeche ka spacetime diagram (L4.2 aur L5 mein use hoga) dikhata hai ki wahi do events kaise reorder ho jaate hain jab tum moving frame ki simultaneity line ki taraf tilt karte ho.

Level 1 — Recognition
L1.1
Do events frame mein same point in space par hote hain, ek second ke antar ke saath. Ek rocket par ud raha hai. Kya woh do events rocket observer ke liye same time-order mein rehte hain?
Recall Solution
Hum kya test kar rahe hain: kya spatial separation hi disagreement drive karti hai. Yahaan hai. Simultaneity gap ko kaam karne ke liye nonzero chahiye, lekin zyada directly yeh events timelike hain (same jagah, real time gap → light easily connect kar sakti hai). Timelike order sab frames mein preserve hoti hai. Toh haan, rocket ke liye same order — pehla event pehla hi rehta hai. Rocket lamba gap dekhta hai (woh Time Dilation hai), lekin kabhi flip nahi hoga.
L1.2
Frame mein, event A par hai aur event B par hai, aur dono par hote hain (simultaneous). Frame direction mein move karta hai. "Leading clocks lag" use karke, kaun sa event pehle record karta hai?
Recall Solution
Hum kya test kar rahe hain: numbers plug kiye bina sign padhna. Figure s01 par map karo: A back B hai (at ), B front F hai (at ). Amber clock dekho — front clock lag karta hai, toh mein front event B pehle hota hai. Signed formula se check karo (event 2 B, event 1 A): , toh . Negative signed gap matlab : B pehle hota hai. ✅
Level 2 — Application
L2.1
Proper length ki ek train par move karti hai. Platform frame mein front aur back par lightning simultaneously strike karti hai. Train frame mein time gap nikalon (sign ke saath, phir magnitude).
Recall Solution
Step 1 — nikalo (kyun: formula ko chahiye). Step 2 — signed gap formula mein plug karo. Event 2 front (bada ), event 1 back. woh separation hai platform frame mein jahan events simultaneous hain — exactly wahi jo formula chahta hai. Step 3 — numbers. Negative sign (Figure s01 mein amber clock lag karta hai) kehta hai train frame mein front bolt pehle record hoti hai; magnitude hai.
L2.2
Wahi train, lekin ab hai. Sab kuch dobaara kiye bina, kya gap barhega ya ghatega, aur uski nayi value kya hai?
Recall Solution
Pehle reasoning: dono aur increase hote hain, toh gap barhega. . Toh — par ke se bada, jaisa predict kiya tha. Sign abhi bhi negative: front bolt pehle.
Level 3 — Analysis
L3.1
Frame mein, event A par hai aur event B par. Frame par move karta hai. aur alag alag compute karo, phir unka difference, aur confirm karo ki sign "leading clock lags" se match karta hai.
Recall Solution
Kyun alag alag compute karein: yeh dikhata hai ki gap koi trick nahi hai — yeh full Lorentz Transformation se directly aata hai. . Difference: (yani ). Negative → B (leading event, Figure s01 mein amber clock) mein A se pehle hota hai. ✅ Rule se match karta hai.
L3.2
Ek rod ki length ground frame mein measure ki gayi hai (jahaan rod se mein move karti hai). Do flashes rod ke apne rest frame mein simultaneously jaati hain, ek ek end par. Ground se dono flashes ke beech ka time gap nikalon — saath mein yeh bhi batao ki kaun si flash pehle hoti hai.
Recall Solution
Subtlety: flashes rod frame mein simultaneous hain, toh formula mein rest length (proper length) honi chahiye, na ki contracted ground-frame 300 m. Step 1 — length contraction undo karo paane ke liye. Length contraction: , toh . . Step 2 — signed gap formula apply karo. Event 2 front end par flash (bada , motion ki direction), event 1 rear flash, toh . Kaun si flash pehle? Sign negative hai, toh : ground frame mein front (leading) flash pehle hoti hai, se. Yeh fir Figure s01 ka amber clock hai.
Level 4 — Synthesis
L4.1
Proper length ka ek spaceship par ud raha hai. Ship frame mein, nose aur tail ke clocks same time padh rahe hain (synchronised). Ground ke according, kaun sa clock aage hai, kitna, aur kya yeh "leading clocks lag" se agree karta hai?
Recall Solution
Frame bookkeeping (page ke upar ke convention ke saath). Convention hai: woh frame hai jahan do events simultaneous hain. Yahaan nose- aur tail-"same reading" events ship mein simultaneous hain, toh is problem ke liye ship ka role play karta hai aur ground ka, ship ke relative direction mein par move karte hue (doosre words mein, ship ground se aage mein jaata hai). Hum sirf "" simultaneous frame ko bolte hain — yeh exactly page ke upar ka rule hai, consistently apply kiya gaya. , (separation mein, yaani ship mein). Kaun aage hai? "Leading clocks lag" se (Figure s01 mein amber clock), nose (front, ship motion ki direction mein) clock peeche padh raha hai, toh tail clock aage hai ground se dekhe jaane par se. ✅
L4.2
mein do events: A at , B at . Frame par move karta hai. (a) Kya yeh events spacelike hain ya timelike? (b) compute karo. Kya time-order flip hoti hai?
Recall Solution
(a) Classify karo (kyun: sirf spacelike events ka hi order flip ho sakta hai — Figure s02 mein tilted line aur Spacetime Diagrams dekho). , , toh . Kyunki , events spacelike hain — light ek se doosre tak nahi pahunch sakti. Order-flip allowed hai. (b) Full transform (dono events mein nonzero hai, toh general signed formula use karo, simultaneous shortcut nahi): . Positive aur chhota: B abhi bhi A ke baad hai, koi flip nahi. Figure s02 mein ki simultaneity line abhi B ke past tilt nahi hui hai. barhao toh flip ho sakti hai: flip ke liye chahiye , yani . Numerically .
Level 5 — Mastery
L5.1
Woh speed nikalon jis par L4.2 ke events (, ) mein simultaneous ho jaate hain, aur prove karo ki speed of light se tez koi frame nahi chahiye.
Recall Solution
Condition: . Kyunki , hamen chahiye ke fraction ke roop mein: , yani . Figure s02 mein yeh exactly woh tilt hai jo ki simultaneity line ko A aur B dono se guzaarta hai. Ek valid sub-light frame exist karta hai exactly isliye kyunki pair spacelike hai (). Agar woh timelike hote, toh yeh formula demand karta — impossible — aur exactly isliye causal order kabhi flip nahi ho sakti.
L5.2
Ek muon detector experiment: ground frame mein do detectors 600 m door "simultaneously" fire hote hain (, ). Ek cosmic-ray muon unke beech par travel karta hai. (a) Muon ke frame mein, do firings ke beech time gap kya hai (signed)? (b) Sign interpret karo.
Recall Solution
Step 1 — (kyun: ultra-relativistic hai, bada expect karo). Step 2 — signed gap formula event 2 woh detector jis ki taraf muon ud raha hai (bada ), ground frame mein jahan woh simultaneous hain: (b) Sign: negative → leading detector (bada , jis ki taraf muon ud raha hai) muon frame mein pehle fire hota hai — phir wahi Figure s01 ka amber clock. Space mein ek modest 600 m gap enormous aur near- speed ki wajah se ke time gap mein blow up ho jaata hai. Wahi physics jaise Time Dilation muon-lifetime result mein hai, simultaneity ki side se dekha gaya.
L5.3 — edge case
L5.2 repeat karo, lekin ab detectors ko is tarah number karo ki event 2 woh ho jis se muon door ud raha hai (trailing detector). Tab . compute karo aur dikhao ki woh L5.2 se consistent hai.
Recall Solution
Yeh kyun important hai: ka sign sirf ek labelling choice hai; physics (kaun sa detector pehle fire karta hai) nahi badalni chahiye. Yeh woh missing edge case hai. Ab , matlab : event 2 (trailing detector) baad mein fire hota hai, yani front/leading detector abhi bhi pehle fire karta hai. L5.2 se identical physics — sirf bookkeeping label flip hua. Rule: positive (event 2 lead karta hai) negative deta hai (event 2 pehle); negative (event 2 trail karta hai) positive deta hai (event 1 pehle). Kisi bhi taraf, leading event pehle hota hai — exactly Figure s01 ka amber clock.
Recall Bannd karne se pehle ek-line self-check
Disagreement ka trigger ::: nonzero spatial separation (simultaneous frame mein). Formula ki hidden assumption ::: events mein simultaneous hain, yani . ka sign vs order ::: matlab event 2 (bada ) pehle hota hai. Agar tum labels flip karo taki ho ::: sign flip karta hai lekin leading event abhi bhi pehle fire karta hai. Order kab flip ho sakti hai ::: sirf spacelike pairs ke liye (). Kaun sa clock peeche padh raha hai ::: leading wala (front, motion ki direction mein) — amber clock, Figure s01.