The parent note gave you one formula and three tidy examples. Real exams throw messy points at you: a point on the top of the ellipse, a point where x is negative, an ellipse that is tall instead of wide, a point you must locate yourself, even a word problem about a whispering gallery. This page marches through every case class so no exam question can surprise you.
Everything here rests on the two facts from the parent note :
S P = a − e x , S ′ P = a + e x , S P + S ′ P = 2 a .
Here S is the right focus at ( a e , 0 ) , S ′ is the left focus at ( − a e , 0 ) , a is half the major axis length, e is the eccentricity (a number between 0 and 1 telling you how squashed the oval is), and x is the horizontal coordinate of your point P .
Before working anything, let us list every kind of situation the focal-radii property can be asked about. Each later example is tagged with the cell it fills.
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Case class
What is tricky about it
Example
A
Point with x > 0 (right half)
Near the right focus → smaller radius
Ex 1
B
Point with x < 0 (left half)
Sign of e x flips; near left focus
Ex 2
C
Point at x = 0 (top/bottom co-vertex)
Degenerate: both radii equal
Ex 3
D
Point at a vertex x = ± a
Limiting case: radii are extremes a ( 1 ∓ e )
Ex 4
E
Tall ellipse (major axis vertical)
Foci on the y -axis; use y not x
Ex 5
F
One radius given, find the other
Use the sum shortcut, no coordinates
Ex 6
G
Build the ellipse from foci + sum
Reverse the property
Ex 7
H
Word problem (whispering gallery)
Translate physical distances → 2 a
Ex 8
I
Exam twist (locus / two conditions)
Combine sum with another equation
Ex 9
Our running wide ellipse for cases A–D and F is
25 x 2 + 9 y 2 = 1 ,
so a 2 = 25 ⇒ a = 5 , b 2 = 9 , and e = 1 − 25 9 = 5 4 . Keep these numbers handy.
The figure above shows this ellipse with its two foci and four sample points, one per cell A–D. Watch how the two coloured focal radii trade length as the point slides.
Worked example Ex 1 (Cell A):
x > 0
On 25 x 2 + 9 y 2 = 1 , take P = ( 4 , 9/5 ) . Find S P and S ′ P .
Forecast: P sits on the right side, close to the right focus S . So guess S P is the smaller of the two, and their sum must be 2 a = 10 .
Step 1 — grab the constants. a = 5 , e = 5 4 .
Why this step? Every focal-radius formula needs a and e ; get them out of the way first.
Step 2 — right focus radius. S P = a − e x = 5 − 5 4 ( 4 ) = 5 − 5 16 = 5 9 .
Why this step? S is the right focus; its radius uses the minus sign ("near shrinks").
Step 3 — left focus radius. S ′ P = a + e x = 5 + 5 16 = 5 41 .
Why this step? Opposite focus → opposite sign on e x .
Verify: S P + S ′ P = 5 9 + 5 41 = 5 50 = 10 = 2 a ✓. And S P = 5 9 < 5 41 = S ′ P , matching the forecast that the near focus gives the smaller radius.
Worked example Ex 2 (Cell B):
x < 0
Same ellipse. Take P = ( − 4 , 9/5 ) (mirror image of Ex 1). Find both radii.
Forecast: Now P is near the left focus S ′ , so we expect the roles to swap: S ′ P becomes the small one, and the sum is still 10 .
Step 1 — plug x = − 4 into the right-focus formula. S P = a − e x = 5 − 5 4 ( − 4 ) = 5 + 5 16 = 5 41 .
Why this step? The formula a − e x is universal; the sign of the answer sorts itself out because x is negative. Never memorise a separate "left-half formula."
Step 2 — left-focus formula. S ′ P = a + e x = 5 + 5 4 ( − 4 ) = 5 − 5 16 = 5 9 .
Why this step? Same universal formula, opposite sign.
Verify: sum = 5 41 + 5 9 = 10 = 2 a ✓. Compared with Ex 1 the two radii have exactly swapped — which is what mirror symmetry across the y -axis must do.
Common mistake "For a left-half point I need new formulas."
Why it feels right: the point is on the other side, so surely the algebra changes. Fix: it does not. a − e x and a + e x hold for every x from − a to a . Let the sign of x do the work.
Worked example Ex 3 (Cell C): the co-vertex
Same ellipse, P = ( 0 , 3 ) (top of the oval). Find both radii.
Forecast: P sits dead centre horizontally — equally far from both foci. So the two radii should be equal , each half of 2 a , i.e. 5 .
Step 1 — apply the formulas at x = 0 . S P = a − e ⋅ 0 = a = 5 and S ′ P = a + e ⋅ 0 = a = 5 .
Why this step? At x = 0 the e x term vanishes, collapsing both formulas to a . This is the degenerate symmetric case.
Step 2 — geometric cross-check by triangle. P = ( 0 , 3 ) , foci at ( ± 4 , 0 ) (since a e = 5 ⋅ 5 4 = 4 ). Distance = 4 2 + 3 2 = 25 = 5 .
Why this step? Confirms the algebra with the raw distance formula — a right triangle of legs 4 and 3 gives hypotenuse 5 .
Verify: sum = 5 + 5 = 10 = 2 a ✓, and both radii equal as forecast. Note this is also where each focal radius equals a — a handy landmark.
Worked example Ex 4 (Cell D): the endpoints of the major axis
Same ellipse. Evaluate the radii at the two vertices ( ± 5 , 0 ) .
Forecast: The right vertex ( 5 , 0 ) is the closest any point gets to S , so S P should hit its minimum ; S ′ P its maximum . These are the extreme values of a focal radius.
Step 1 — right vertex ( a , 0 ) = ( 5 , 0 ) . S P = a − e a = a ( 1 − e ) = 5 ( 1 − 5 4 ) = 1 ; S ′ P = a ( 1 + e ) = 5 ( 5 9 ) = 9 .
Why this step? Setting x = a gives the algebraic extremes a ( 1 − e ) and a ( 1 + e ) .
Step 2 — left vertex ( − a , 0 ) = ( − 5 , 0 ) . By symmetry S P = a ( 1 + e ) = 9 , S ′ P = a ( 1 − e ) = 1 .
Why this step? Mirror of Step 1; confirms the smallest possible focal radius is a ( 1 − e ) and the largest is a ( 1 + e ) .
Verify: each vertex gives 1 + 9 = 10 = 2 a ✓. Range of any single focal radius: from a ( 1 − e ) = 1 up to a ( 1 + e ) = 9 . This kills the "2 b " myth — even at the extreme vertex the sum is 2 a = 10 , never 2 b = 6 .
Worked example Ex 5 (Cell E): foci on the
y -axis
Ellipse 9 x 2 + 25 y 2 = 1 , point P = ( 9/5 , 4 ) . Find the focal radii.
Forecast: The bigger denominator (25 ) sits under y 2 , so the major axis is vertical . The foci lie on the y -axis and the working variable is y , not x . Sum still = 2 a where a 2 = 25 .
Step 1 — identify the long axis. Since 25 > 9 , a 2 = 25 ⇒ a = 5 (vertical), b 2 = 9 .
Why this step? The label "a " always attaches to the larger denominator; foci and the ± e ⋅ ( coordinate ) rule follow the major axis.
Step 2 — eccentricity. e = 1 − a 2 b 2 = 1 − 25 9 = 5 4 . Foci at ( 0 , ± a e ) = ( 0 , ± 4 ) .
Why this step? Same b 2 = a 2 ( 1 − e 2 ) relation; only the axis changed.
Step 3 — radii using y . Upper focus S ( 0 , 4 ) : S P = a − ey = 5 − 5 4 ( 4 ) = 5 9 . Lower focus S ′ ( 0 , − 4 ) : S ′ P = a + ey = 5 + 5 16 = 5 41 .
Why this step? Rotate the whole picture 9 0 ∘ : the x in a ± e x becomes y because the foci moved to the y -axis.
Verify: sum = 5 9 + 5 41 = 10 = 2 a ✓. Notice this is Ex 1 stood on its end — same numbers, axes swapped.
x in a − e x for every ellipse."
Why it feels right: the parent formula literally reads a − e x . Fix: that formula is written for the standard wide ellipse where the major axis is horizontal. For a tall ellipse the correct variable is the one along the major axis — here y . Match the variable to the axis carrying the foci.
Worked example Ex 6 (Cell F): the shortcut
On 16 x 2 + 7 y 2 = 1 , a point has S P = 5 . Find S ′ P and the x -coordinate.
Forecast: Because the sum is fixed at 2 a , you should get S ′ P without any coordinates — just subtract.
Step 1 — sum shortcut. a 2 = 16 ⇒ 2 a = 8 , so S ′ P = 2 a − S P = 8 − 5 = 3 .
Why this step? This is the whole power of the property: knowing one radius pins the other instantly.
Step 2 — recover x (optional). e = 1 − 16 7 = 4 3 . From S P = a − e x : 5 = 4 − 4 3 x ⇒ 4 3 x = − 1 ⇒ x = − 3 4 .
Why this step? A negative x tells us the point sits in the left half — consistent with its being far (S P = 5 > a = 4 ) from the right focus.
Verify: S ′ P = a + e x = 4 + 4 3 ( − 3 4 ) = 4 − 1 = 3 ✓ — matches the shortcut, and 5 + 3 = 8 = 2 a ✓.
Worked example Ex 7 (Cell G): reverse-engineer
Foci at ( ± 3 , 0 ) and sum of focal radii = 10 . Find the ellipse's equation.
Forecast: The definition itself hands you a (from the sum), and the foci hand you a e . Everything else follows.
Step 1 — get a from the sum. 2 a = 10 ⇒ a = 5 .
Why this step? Sum of focal radii is 2 a — read it straight off.
Step 2 — get e from the foci. Foci at ± a e = ± 3 ⇒ a e = 3 ⇒ e = 5 3 .
Why this step? Foci of a wide ellipse sit at ( ± a e , 0 ) .
Step 3 — get b 2 . b 2 = a 2 ( 1 − e 2 ) = 25 ( 1 − 25 9 ) = 25 − 9 = 16 .
Why this step? The standard relation converts a , e into the minor-axis parameter.
Verify: equation 25 x 2 + 16 y 2 = 1 . Check a focal radius at x = 0 : S P = a = 5 = 2 2 a ✓, and b 2 = 16 < 25 = a 2 so the oval is indeed wide ✓.
Worked example Ex 8 (Cell H): the whispering gallery
An elliptical hall has its two "focus" spots 20 m apart. A whisper at one focus is heard clearly at the other; the sound travels along a wall path whose two segments (whisperer→wall→listener) always total 52 m. Find the ellipse describing the wall (foci on the x -axis).
Forecast: The two sound segments are exactly the two focal radii of the reflection point — so their fixed total 52 is 2 a . Foci 20 m apart means 2 a e = 20 .
Step 1 — translate the physics. For a point on the wall, (distance to one focus) + (distance to other focus) = 52 . That constant sum is the ellipse's 2 a , so a = 26 .
Why this step? The reflection property is a physical realisation of "sum of focal radii = 2 a ."
Step 2 — use the focal separation. Foci 20 m apart ⇒ 2 a e = 20 ⇒ a e = 10 ⇒ e = 26 10 = 13 5 .
Why this step? Distance between foci is 2 a e .
Step 3 — find b 2 . b 2 = a 2 − a 2 e 2 = a 2 − ( a e ) 2 = 2 6 2 − 1 0 2 = 676 − 100 = 576 , so b = 24 .
Why this step? c = a e gives b 2 = a 2 − c 2 directly, dodging fractions.
Verify: 676 x 2 + 576 y 2 = 1 . Units: all lengths in metres, consistent ✓. Half-major axis a = 26 m so full length 52 m matches the string total ✓; foci at ± 10 m give the stated 20 m gap ✓.
Worked example Ex 9 (Cell I): find the point, not just the radii
On 25 x 2 + 9 y 2 = 1 , find the point(s) P in the upper half where S ′ P = 2 S P (the left-focus radius is twice the right-focus radius).
Forecast: Two facts fight it out: S P + S ′ P = 10 (sum) and S ′ P = 2 S P (given). Solve them together — a point far from S , hence in the right half (x > 0 )? Let us see.
Step 1 — combine sum with the ratio. Substitute S ′ P = 2 S P into S P + S ′ P = 10 : 3 S P = 10 ⇒ S P = 3 10 , S ′ P = 3 20 .
Why this step? The constant-sum property turns a two-unknown problem into one equation.
Step 2 — solve for x . S P = a − e x ⇒ 3 10 = 5 − 5 4 x ⇒ 5 4 x = 5 − 3 10 = 3 5 ⇒ x = 12 25 .
Why this step? Turn the radius back into a coordinate. Positive x ⇒ right half, so P is actually closer to S — consistent with S P being the smaller radius.
Step 3 — solve for y (upper half). 9 y 2 = 1 − 25 x 2 = 1 − 25 ( 25/12 ) 2 = 1 − 144 25 = 144 119 . So y 2 = 144 119 ⋅ 9 = 16 119 , giving y = 4 119 (positive for upper half).
Why this step? The point must also lie on the ellipse; that pins y .
Verify: S P = 5 − 5 4 ⋅ 12 25 = 5 − 12 20 = 5 − 3 5 = 3 10 ✓ and S ′ P = 5 + 3 5 = 3 20 = 2 ⋅ 3 10 ✓. Sum 3 10 + 3 20 = 10 = 2 a ✓. The point is P = ( 12 25 , 4 119 ) .
Recall Which variable goes into
a ± e ( ⋅ ) for a tall ellipse, and why?
y — because for a tall ellipse the major axis is vertical, the foci sit on the y -axis, so the focal radius depends on the vertical coordinate.
Recall What are the smallest and largest possible focal radii, and where do they occur?
Smallest = a ( 1 − e ) and largest = a ( 1 + e ) , both at the vertices ( ± a , 0 ) (endpoints of the major axis).
Recall At
x = 0 what is special about the two focal radii?
They are equal, each exactly a (half of 2 a ), since the e x term vanishes.
Match the variable to the long axis; let the sign of the coordinate do the work; the sum never moves off 2 a .
Sum of focal radii = 2a property (index 3.4.5) — the parent property these cases exercise.
Ellipse - Standard Equation — where a , b , e and the wide/tall distinction come from.
Eccentricity of Conics — the e inside every a ± e ( ⋅ ) .
Directrix and Focal Distance — the alternative route to focal distance.
Hyperbola - Difference of Focal Radii = 2a — the difference-cousin for contrast.
Definition of Conic as Locus — the constant-sum locus that underlies Ex 7 and Ex 8.