2.3.14Coordinate Geometry

General form of circle — converting, finding centre and radius

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Overview

The general form of a circle is x2+y2+2gx+2fy+c=0x^2 + y^2 +2gx + 2fy + c = 0. This looks messy compared to the standard form (xh)2+(yk)2=r2(x-h)^2 + (y-k)^2 = r^2, but it's how circles often appear after algebraic manipulation. The power lies in conversion: extracting the centre and radius hidden inside those linear terms.


[!intuition] Why Does the General Form Exist?

When you expand (xh)2+(yk)2=r2(x-h)^2 + (y-k)^2 = r^2, you get: x22hx+h2+y22ky+k2=r2x^2 - 2hx + h^2 + y^2 - 2ky + k^2 = r^2 x2+y22hx2ky+(h2+k2r2)=0x^2 + y^2 - 2hx - 2ky + (h^2 + k^2 - r^2) = 0

The squared terms have coefficient 1, the linear terms hide the centre, and the constant term hides both centre and radius. Real-world problems (loci, intersections, tangents) often give you the general form directly. You need to reverse-engineer the centre and radius.


[!definition] General Form Components

x2+y2+2gx+2fy+c=0x^2 + y^2 + 2gx + 2fy + c = 0

  • Coefficients of x2x^2 and y2y^2: Must both be 1 (if not, divide through)
  • No xyxy term: Cross-product coefficient must be 0 (pure circle, not ellipse/hyperbola)
  • 2g2g: Coefficient of xx → encodes 2h-2h where hh is xx-coordinate of centre
  • 2f2f: Coefficient of yy → encodes 2k-2k where kk is yy-coordinate of centre
  • cc: Constant → encodes h2+k2r2h^2 + k^2 - r^2

[!formula] Conversion Formulas (Derived from Scratch)

Goal: Extract centre (g,f)(-g, -f) and radius rr from x2+y2+2gx+2fy+c=0x^2 + y^2 + 2gx + 2fy + c = 0.

Derivation: Completing the Square

Why this technique? Because (xh)2(x-h)^2 forces the linear xx term to vanish, isolating hh.

Step 1: Group xx terms and yy terms: (x2+2gx)+(y2+2fy)+c=0(x^2 + 2gx) + (y^2 + 2fy) + c = 0

Step 2: Complete the square for xx:

  • Take half the coefficient of xx: 2g2=g\frac{2g}{2} = g
  • Square it: g2g^2
  • Add and subtract: x2+2gx+g2g2x^2 + 2gx + g^2 - g^2

x2+2gx=(x+g)2g2x^2 + 2gx = (x + g)^2 - g^2

Why? Because (x+g)2=x2+2gx+g2(x+g)^2 = x^2 + 2gx + g^2. We create the perfect square by "borrowing" g2g^2.

Step 3: Complete the square for yy similarly: y2+2fy=(y+f)2f2y^2 + 2fy = (y + f)^2 - f^2

Step 4: Substitute back: (x+g)2g2+(y+f)2f2+c=0(x + g)^2 - g^2 + (y + f)^2 - f^2 + c = 0 (x+g)2+(y+f)2=g2+f2c(x + g)^2 + (y + f)^2 = g^2 + f^2 - c

Step 5: Compare with (xh)2+(yk)2=r2(x - h)^2 + (y - k)^2 = r^2:

  • (x+g)2=(x(g))2    h=g(x + g)^2 = (x - (-g))^2 \implies h = -g
  • (y+f)2=(y(f))2    k=f(y + f)^2 = (y - (-f))^2 \implies k = -f
  • r2=g2+f2cr^2 = g^2 + f^2 - c

Final Result

Why the negative signs? The general form writes +2gx+2gx, but the standard form has 2hx-2hx. So 2g=2h    g=h2g = -2h \implies g = -h.


[!example] Example 1: Standard Conversion

Problem: Find centre and radius of x2+y2+6x4y12=0x^2 + y^2 + 6x - 4y - 12 = 0.

Solution:

Step 1: Identify coefficients by matching x2+y2+2gx+2fy+c=0x^2 + y^2 + 2gx + 2fy + c = 0:

  • 2g=6    g=32g = 6 \implies g = 3
  • 2f=4    f=22f = -4 \implies f = -2
  • c=12c = -12

Why this step? Direct pattern matching isolates the parameters.

Step 2: Apply formulas:

  • Centre: C=(g,f)=(3,(2))=(3,2)C = (-g, -f) = (-3, -(-2)) = (-3, 2)
  • Radius: r=g2+f2c=9+4(12)=25=5r = \sqrt{g^2 + f^2 - c} = \sqrt{9 + 4 - (-12)} = \sqrt{25} = 5

Why check g2+f2cg^2 + f^2 - c? If negative, the "circle" is imaginary (no real points satisfy it).

Answer: Centre (3,2)(-3, 2), radius 55.


[!example] Example 2: Converting Standard to General

Problem: Convert (x2)2+(y+5)2=16(x - 2)^2 + (y + 5)^2 = 16 to general form.

Solution:

Step 1: Expand the squares: (x2)2=x24x+4(x - 2)^2 = x^2 - 4x + 4 (y+5)2=y2+10y+25(y + 5)^2 = y^2 + 10y + 25

Why expand? The general form has no squared binomials, only x2,y2,x,y,cx^2, y^2, x, y, c terms.

Step 2: Substitute and collect: x24x+4+y2+10y+25=16x^2 - 4x + 4 + y^2 + 10y + 25 = 16 x2+y24x+10y+29=16x^2 + y^2 - 4x + 10y + 29 = 16 x2+y24x+10y+13=0x^2 + y^2 - 4x + 10y + 13 = 0

Why move 16? General form sets right side to zero.

Verify: 2g=4    g=22g = -4 \implies g = -2, 2f=10    f=52f = 10 \implies f = 5, c=13c = 13.

  • Centre: (g,f)=(2,5)(-g, -f) = (2, -5)
  • Radius: 4+2513=16=4\sqrt{4 + 25 - 13} = \sqrt{16} = 4

[!example] Example 3: No Real Circle (Imaginary Case)

Problem: Does x2+y2+2x+4y+20=0x^2 + y^2 + 2x + 4y + 20 = 0 represent a real circle?

Solution:

Step 1: Extract parameters:

  • 2g=2    g=12g = 2 \implies g = 1
  • 2f=4    f=22f = 4 \implies f = 2
  • c=20c = 20

Step 2: Check r2=g2+f2cr^2 = g^2 + f^2 - c: r2=1+420=15r^2 = 1 + 4 - 20 = -15

Why is this a problem? Radius squared is negative → no real radius exists.

Answer: This is an imaginary circle (radius is purely imaginary). No real points satisfy it.

Physical intuition: The constant cc is too large; the centre and radius data are "contradictory" in real space.


[!example] Example 4: Point Circle (Degenerate Case)

Problem: Analyze x2+y26x+4y+13=0x^2 + y^2 - 6x + 4y + 13 = 0.

Solution:

  • g=3g = -3, f=2f = 2, c=13c = 13
  • r2=9+413=0    r=0r^2 = 9 + 4 - 13 = 0 \implies r = 0

Answer: Centre ((3),2)=(3,2)(-(-3), -2) = (3, -2), radius 00. This is a point circle — the circle has "collapsed" to a single point. It's the limiting case as a circle shrinks.


[!mistake] Common Mistakes & Steel-Manning

Mistake 1: Forgetting the Negative Signs

Wrong approach: x2+y2+6x8y+5=0    x^2 + y^2 + 6x - 8y + 5 = 0 \implies centre is (6,8)(6, -8).

Why it feels right: You see +6x+6x and think "the centre's xx-coordinate is 6."

The fix: The formula is (g,f)(-g, -f), not (g,f)(g, f). The +6x+6x in general form corresponds to 2hx-2hx in standard form, so h=3h = -3.

Correct: 2g=6    g=3    h=g=32g = 6 \implies g = 3 \implies h = -g = -3. Centre is (3,4)(-3, 4).

Mistake 2: Using cc Directly as r2r^2

Wrong approach: x2+y2+4x2y+1=0    r2=1x^2 + y^2 + 4x - 2y + 1 = 0 \implies r^2 = 1.

Why it feels right: The constant term looks like it should be related to radius.

The fix: The constant cc also encodes the centre's position: c=h2+k2r2c = h^2 + k^2 - r^2. You must compute r2=g2+f2cr^2 = g^2 + f^2 - c.

Correct: g=2,f=1,c=1    r2=4+11=4    r=2g =2, f = -1, c = 1 \implies r^2 = 4 + 1 - 1 = 4 \implies r = 2.

Mistake 3: Not Checking Validity

Wrong approach: Blindly write r=g2+f2cr = \sqrt{g^2 + f^2 - c} even when it's negative.

Why it feels right: Algorithms make you rush; you forget to verify.

The fix: Always check g2+f2c0g^2 + f^2 - c \geq 0. If negative, state "no real circle." If zero, "point circle."


[!recall]- Explain It to a 12-Year-Old

Imagine you're hiding a treasure (the centre of a circle) by giving someone clues (the equation). The fancy way to describe a circle is "all points 5 steps away from treasure at location (3, 4)" — that's (x3)2+(y4)2=25(x-3)^2 + (y-4)^2 = 25.

But if you expand that (like opening a wrapped gift), you get a messy equation like x2+y26x8y+0=0x^2 + y^2 - 6x - 8y + 0 = 0. Now the treasure's location (3, 4) and the distance (5 steps) are scrambled into those numbers 6,8,0-6, -8, 0.

To find the treasure, you complete the square — it's like re-wrapping the gift. You group the xx stuff together: x26xx^2 - 6x becomes (x3)29(x-3)^2 - 9. Same for yy. Then you see: "Oh! The centre is at (3, 4) and the radius is 5." The 6-6 was secretly 2×3-2\times 3, hiding the 3. The general form is just the circle in disguise!


[!mnemonic] Centre and Radius Quick Recall

"Negative Guys Find Circles"

  • Negative: Centre has negative of the coefficients
  • Guys: gg comes from the xx term (2g2g)
  • Find: ff comes from the yy term (2f2f)
  • Circles: Use g2+f2cg^2 + f^2 - c to find radius

Formula chant: "Centre is minus-g, minus-f; radius is root of g-squared, f-squared, minus c."


Diagram

Figure — General form of circle — converting, finding centre and radius

Connections

  • Standard form of circle — the target form after completing the square
  • Completing the square — the algebraic technique used for conversion
  • Equation of circle from endpoints of diameter — often yields general form directly
  • Tangent to a circle — easier to find from general form using implicit differentiation
  • Family of circles — general form is the natural representation for parameterized circles
  • Conic sections general equationAx2+Bxy+Cy2+Dx+Ey+F=0Ax^2 + Bxy + Cy^2 + Dx + Ey + F = 0; circle is special case A=C,B=0A=C, B=0

Flashcards

What is the general form of a circle equation?
x2+y2+2gx+2fy+c=0x^2 + y^2 + 2gx + 2fy + c = 0
What is the centre of the circle x2+y2+2gx+2fy+c=0x^2 + y^2 + 2gx + 2fy + c = 0?
(g,f)(-g, -f)
What is the radius formula for general form x2+y2+2gx+2fy+c=0x^2 + y^2 + 2gx + 2fy + c = 0?
r=g2+f2cr = \sqrt{g^2 + f^2 - c}
What condition must hold for a real circle in general form?
g2+f2c>0g^2 + f^2 - c > 0 (if zero, point circle; if negative, imaginary)
Find the centre of x2+y2+8x6y+10=0x^2 + y^2 + 8x - 6y + 10 = 0.
2g=8    g=42g = 8 \implies g = 4; 2f=6    f=32f = -6 \implies f = -3; centre is (4,3)(-4, 3)
Find the radius of x2+y24x+10y+4=0x^2 + y^2 - 4x + 10y + 4 = 0.
g=2,f=5,c=4g = -2, f = 5, c = 4; r=4+254=25=5r = \sqrt{4 + 25 - 4} = \sqrt{25} = 5
Why does the centre have negative signs: (g,f)(-g, -f)?
Because 2g2g in general form corresponds to 2h-2h in standard form (xh)2(x-h)^2, so h=gh = -g
Convert (x+1)2+(y3)2=9(x+1)^2 + (y-3)^2 = 9 to general form.
Expand: x2+2x+1+y26y+9=9    x2+y2+2x6y+1=0x^2 + 2x + 1 + y^2 - 6y + 9 = 9 \implies x^2 + y^2 + 2x - 6y + 1 = 0
What is a point circle?
When r=0r = 0 (i.e., g2+f2=cg^2 + f^2 = c), the circle degenerates to a single point at the centre
What does g2+f2c<0g^2 + f^2 - c < 0 mean geometrically?
The equation represents an imaginary circle with no real points satisfying it

Concept Map

expand

gives

coeff x

coeff y

reverse via

isolates

so h=-g

so k=-f

yields

yields

requires

Standard form (x-h)^2+(y-k)^2=r^2

General form x^2+y^2+2gx+2fy+c=0

Expand and rearrange

Match coefficients

Complete the square

2g = -2h

2f = -2k

Centre (-g, -f)

Radius sqrt of g^2+f^2-c

Valid if g^2+f^2-c > 0

Hinglish (regional understanding)

Intuition Hinglish mein samjho

Circle ka general form kuch ajeb lagta hai pehli baar: x2+y2+2gx+2fy+c=0x^2 + y^2 + 2gx + 2fy + c = 0. Par yeh actually standard form (xh)2+(yk)2=r2(x-h)^2 + (y-k)^2 = r^2 ka hi expanded version hai. Jab ap brackets kholte ho, toh centre aur radius ki information linear terms (2gx,2fy2gx, 2fy) aur constant (cc) mein chhip jati hai. General form ka fayda yeh hai ki real-world problems mein circle ka equation aksar isi form mein milta hai — tangent lines, locus problems, ya intersection questions solve karte waqt.

Conversion ka logic simple hai: completing the square technique use karo. x2+2gxx^2 + 2gx ko (x+g)2g2(x+g)^2 - g^2 mein convert karte ho, same yy ke liye. Phir equation ban jata hai (x+g)2+(y+f)2=g2+f2c(x+g)^2 + (y+f)^2 = g^2 + f^2 - c. Iska matlab centre hai (g,f)(-g, -f) — notice the negative signs, bahut important! — aur radius hai g2+f2c\sqrt{g^2 + f^2 - c}. Ek trick yad rakho: agar g2+f2cg^2 + f^2 - c negative nikle, toh circle real nahi hai (imaginary). Agar zero ho, toh circle ek point ban gaya (degenerate case).

Exams mein teen chezein puchhenge: general form se centre-radius nikalo, standard form ko general mein convert karo, ya yeh check karo ki circle valid hai ya nahi. Sabse badi mistake yeh hoti hai ki log negative signs bhool jate hain — 2g=62g = 6 seedha centre (6,...)(6, ...) likh dete hain, jabki hona chahiye (3,...)(-3, ...) because centre formula (g,f)(-g, -f) hai. Dusri mistake: constant cc ko directly r2r^2 maan lena. Always formula yad rakho: r=g2+f2cr = \sqrt{g^2 + f^2 - c}. Practice karte raho, yeh conversion bohot useful hai coordinate geometry ke aage ke topics mein!

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